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Drunken Ravings
10/04/2003
 
Daily Kos: Political analysis and other daily rants on the state of the nation
Daily Kos : Did Bob Novak expose More cia agents? "Bob Novak yesterday on CNN:
“Joe Wilson, the -- everybody knows he has given campaign contributions in 2000 to both Ford -- I mean to both Gore and to Bush. He gave twice as much to Gore, $2,000, $1,000 over the limit. The government -- the campaign had to give him back $1,000. That very day, according to his records, his wife, the CIA employee gave $1,000 to Gore, and she listed herself as an employee of Bruster, Jennings and Associates (ph).
There is there no such firm, I'm convinced. CIA people are not supposed to list themselves with fictitious firms if they're a deep cover. They're supposed to be real firms, or so I'm told. So it adds to the little mystery.”"

the Washington Post reports,

After the name of the company was broadcast yesterday, administration officials confirmed that it was a CIA front…

10/03/2003
 
'Slime and Defend'
Paul Krugman : 'Slime and Defend'
let's be clear: we already know what the president knew, and when he knew it. Mr. Bush knew, 11 weeks ago, that some of his senior aides had done something utterly inexcusable. But as long as the media were willing to let the story lie — which, with a few honorable exceptions, like David Corn at The Nation and Knut Royce and Timothy Phelps at Newsday, they were — he didn't think this outrage required any action.
 
The Debates: Bush vs Bush
Bush loses. The funniest damn thing ive seen in a year.
 
Lying Media Bastards-We're Just Working Till the Day We Decide We've Had Enough...
Lying Media Bastards-We're Just Working Till the Day We Decide We've Had Enough...: "'All evidence tells us that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, which means that we must search harder than ever for evidence of the unlikely,' said Secretary of State Harvey the Rabbit in a press conference today. This sentiment was mirrored by Vice President Tooth Fairy. 'We are so, so, so certain that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, that we just NEED to show the rest of you. And if it turns out that he doesn't have them, then we're sure that we'll find evidence that he had plans to make them. And, barring that, we're pretty sure we'll find some dirty magazines.'

'Meow meow meow meow meow,' said Secretary of Defense Fucked-Up-Cat-Puppet-from-Mr.-Rogers'-Neighborhood.

The Department of Leprechauns and Unicorns could not be reached for comment."
 
Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | North Korea boasts of growing plutonium stock
North Korea boasts of growing plutonium stock
 
Arnold S
Arnold Schwarzenegger:"I admired Hitler "ABCNEWS obtained a copy of an unpublished book proposal with quotes from a verbatim transcript of an interview Schwarzenegger gave in 1975 while making the film Pumping Iron.

Asked who his heroes are, he answered, 'I admired Hitler, for instance, because he came from being a little man with almost no formal education, up to power. I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for what he did with it.'"
10/01/2003
 
OnPolitics: "6. Do you think this investigation should be handled by (the U.S. Justice Department, which is part of the Bush administration), or should it be handled by (an outside investigator known as a special counsel, that is not part of the Bush administration)?
Justice Special No
Department counsel opinion
9/30/03 29 69 3"
 
2cents - Strib on Wilson-Plame: "On Sunday, the Washington Post reported that an “administration official” told its reporters “two White House officials leaked the information (on Plame) to selected journalists to discredit Wilson.” The Post also said that, according to “White House aides,” Bush had no intention of asking his senior staff about the leak"
 
Payback Time: "13) We need to reverse things: if the Clinton White House had sold out an active-duty CIA agent as 'payback' for some whistle-blowing article, we would be outraged. This crime is no less serious because it was done in a Republican White House. "


 
Hardball (MSNBC - 9/30/03):

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Don't you think it's more serious than Watergate, when you think about it?

RNC CHAIRMAN ED GILLESPIE: I think if the allegation is true, to reveal the identity of an undercover CIA operative -- it's abhorrent, and it should be a crime, and it is a crime.

CHRIS MATTHEWS: It'd be worse than Watergate, wouldn't it?

GILLESPIE: It's -- Yeah, I suppose in terms of the real world implications of it. It's not just politics.

 
Flat out stolen from Atrios

Lehrer Newshour audio

Full Transcript

LARRY JOHNSON: This not an alleged abuse. This is a confirmed abuse. I worked with this woman. She started training with me. She has been under cover for three decades. She is not as Bob Novak suggested a "CIA analyst." Given that, i was a CIA analyst for 4 years. I was under cover. I could not divulge to my family outside of my wife that I worked for the CIA unti I left the Intelligence Agency on Sept. 30, 1989. At that point I could admit it. The fact that she was under cover for three decades and that has been divulged is outrageous. She was put undercover for certain reasons. One, she works in an area where people she works with overseas could be compromised...

For these journalists to argue that this is no big deal... and if I hear another Republican operative suggesting that, well, this was just an analyst. Fine. Let them go undercover. Let's put them go overseas. Let's out them and see how they like it...

I say this as a registered Republican. I am on record giving contributions to the George Bush campaign. This is not about partisan politics. This is about a betrayal, a political smear, of an individual who had no relevance to the story. Publishing her name in that story added nothing to it because the entire intent was, correctly as Amb. Wilson noted, to intimidate, to suggest taht there was some impropriety that somehow his wife was in a decision-making position to influence his ability to go over and savage a stupid policy, an erroneous policy, and frankly what was a false policy of suggesting that there was nuclear material in Iraq that required this war. This was about a political attack. To pretend it was something else, to get into this parsing of words.


I tell you, it sickens me to be a Republican to see this.

-Larry Johnson, a former counter-terrorism official at the CIA and the State Department.

9/30/2003
 
Justice going forward with probe into leak of CIA name - Sep. 30, 2003: "The Justice Department has launched a criminal investigation into who may have leaked the classified identity of a CIA operative, the White House announced Tuesday"

Unfortunately theyve been stacking the justice department of late with right wing lunatics as a political payoff. I dont know why im skeptical.. after all there were creditable investigations of Ruby Ridge, Waco, and 9/11 werent there..... werent there???
 
Novak: Administration didn't 'call me to leak this' - Sep. 30, 2003: "Newspaper columnist Robert Novak said Monday that no one in the administration called him to identify the wife of Bush critic Joe Wilson as a CIA operative"

The short version of this story goes as follows.

The bush administration wanted to punish one of their critics. So it let Novak know the mans wife was a CIA agent. Novak then proceeded to publish this, which by the way, is a very very serious crime... as well as being treasonous and risking the life of an intelligence agent for political gain.

Novak should be fired, his syndication deal cancelled and he should be prosecutied. In addition there should be a creditable outside investigation of who leaked the information and why. Theres no excuse for this Treason not to be punished to the full extent of the law.

Dont be suprised however when republicans see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
 
CNN.com - Conservative 'full-mooners' find a commie substitute - Sep. 29, 2003: "Conspiracy addicts see the dark hand(s) of the Clintons' -- that would be former President Bill and current New York Sen. Hillary -- at work almost everywhere, but most especially today in the fledgling presidential campaign of retired four-star Army Gen. Wesley Clark. "

Its those evil Clintons *ominous music* *Evil cackle in the background*
 
Clark: Americans 'embarrassed' by Bush - Sep. 29, 2003: "Speaking after an event in Washington at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's annual conference, Clark, 58, told reporters that the American people are 'really embarrassed' by the administration's leadership.
'We're in there without a strategy to win, and without a strategy to exit properly, and now the president's asked for $87 billion to prosecute it,' said Clark. "

Deans' honesty is apparently infectious.
 
Clark: Americans 'embarrassed' by Bush - Sep. 29, 2003: "Speaking after an event in Washington at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's annual conference, Clark, 58, told reporters that the American people are 'really embarrassed' by the administration's leadership.
'We're in there without a strategy to win, and without a strategy to exit properly, and now the president's asked for $87 billion to prosecute it,' said Clark. "

Deans' honesty is apparently infectious.
 

Evil awakening gives new life to terrorism
: "Jason Burke argues that far from being a spent force, as George Bush believes, Islamic militancy is gaining in strength"
 
US renews French feud over Iraq: "Row over ceding control to Iraqis threatens UN agreement to share military burden"
 
America's hidden battlefield toll: "New figures reveal the true number of GIs wounded in Iraq "
 
The Observer | Special reports : "Farah tried to plead with the US troops but she was killed anyway "
 

The US kills three more in Sunni triangle


Standing by the grave of his dead brother, Sheikh Abed Asalam Jamil says he is happy and calls for a jihad against the US Army."


Soldier are not trained to be police. Many people are under the mistaken impresison that a soldier is just an average person, equiped with an M16. But soldiers arent "average". From the first day in the military a solider is taught to become a killer. Its what, in the end, a soldier is meant to be.

A good example of this is the death of a woman and child a few weeks ago. Soldiers
were to enter a building and search it for Baathists. When they bashed in the door,
the woman who lived there fired a shot from a weapon it is apparent she used for self defense. Here is where the difference comes in. A well trained police officer would have backed off, called in help, blocked all exits, and communicated with the person inside in hopes of resolving the situation peacefully. But the US soldiers involved did exactly what they are taught from day one to do. They threw everything they had at the 'enemy' shooting at them. Eventually tossing a grenade into the room killing hte woman and her daughter. Did the soldiers do something wrong? No. They did what theyre trained to do.. what is ingrained in them from day one of joining. Did the woman
do something wrong? No. The crime rate in Iraq is so high now we would have a revolution if it happened in an american city. What went wrong is we have soldiers who are being forced to be police.

These examples are repeated over and over. And as there is no real reporting out of Iraq and afghanistan we cant know much more than that. The press is quite content
to get its information from the military and government. But even if we did get an accurate view of Iraq.. what should we do differently?

The first thing America needs to do is to train and arm the local police, most of which has already been done. And then turn over police duties to them. All police duties. That means that the police have final authority. It also means we have to remove a lot of
the US armed presence on the ground. The US military should be assisting the local police when asked. Not occupying the cities with excessive force. Something like it is done all over the US every day. Local police protect the people. Should they need help they can call on swat teams, neighboring police forces, even state and federal police. Its not a complex, never seen before situation.

Next we need to either allow the Iraqi's to have local elections monitored by the UN and other international organisations. Once we do that we absolutely must back the election results. Whether the leaders elected are to our liking or not. Its called democracy. If we are not going to do this its time for Bush to admit he never had any intention of a Democratic Iraq and let the world know that we are installing another middle eastern puppet tyranny. but i think thats too hard to face politically when everyone is watching.. and when everyone remembers his promises.

Once we do these things and show the Iraqi's we're there to Help them.. not hurt them, theres a chance we'll stop creating anti-american jihadists in the country we supposedly went to save. Once we do the right thing we'll see the rest of the world on board. And once we do the right thing for the first time in this administration... we are likely to see at least a small amount of the trust of the world come back. And see americans viewed as good people trying to help.. rather than evil empire builders under the rule of a man who's biggest accomplishment is the utter ruin of american credibility.
united states every day.

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